Transcripts Show Fed Officials Easing Tension With Jokes

By The Associated Press

In 2008, as they faced imploding financial markets and a staggering economy, Federal Reserve policymakers occasionally lightened their mood with references to Monty Python, "Desperate Housewives," "Star Wars" villains and plastic surgeons in San Francisco's East Bay.

They also sketched sometimes varying pictures of the financial crisis, with Janet Yellen, now the Fed chair, among those who most accurately grasped the depth of the crisis at hand.

The Fed on Friday released transcripts from its 14 policy meetings during 2008, six of them emergency conference calls. It was a frantic year in which officials rescued investment bank Bear Stearns, bailed out insurer American International Group and mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and allowed the venerable investment bank Lehman Brothers to fail in the biggest bankruptcy, in American history.

The documents offer some revealing behind-the-scenes looks at the Fed in action:

Joking Around

Fredric Mishkin, a Fed governor, noted in an April meeting that consumers weren't always honest about themselves. "If you ask people what TV shows they are watching, they will tell you that they are watching PBS and something classy, but you know they are watching "Desperate Housewives,'," he said. "What is wrong with 'Desperate Housewives?'" countered Chairman Ben Bernanke.

For his part, Mishkin dropped a Monty Python reference at the board's Jan. 29-30 meeting: "I think we're all trying to be cheery here," he said. "It reminds me a little of one of my favorite scenes in a movie, which is Monty Python's 'Life with Brian.' I remember the scene with them there all on the cross, and they start singing, 'Look on the Bright Side of Life.'"

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Not to be outdone, Richard Fisher, head of the Dallas Federal Reserve Bank, invoked a movie metaphor to describe the difficulty of calming investors gripped by panic: "Crafting policy to satisfy it is like feeding Jabba the Hutt — doing so is fruitless, if not dangerous, because it simply will insist upon more."

Assessing economic conditions in California, Janet Yellen, then head of the San Francisco Fed and now Fed chair, drew laughter with this quip: "My contacts report that cutbacks in spending are widespread, especially for discretionary items. For example, East Bay plastic surgeons and dentists note that patients are deferring elective procedures. Reservations are no longer necessary at many high-end restaurants. And the Silicon Valley Country Club, with a $250,000 entrance fee and seven-to-eight-year waiting list, has seen the number of would-be new members shrink to a mere 13."

Mishkin poked fun at his own poor timing in buying a house in the midst of a real estate collapse: "I have to please my wife," he said. "I ... was thinking about pulling out but then decided that my marriage was more important."

Bernanke provided insight into his private thinking about the economy. At an April meeting, he revealed: "I play Jekyll and Hyde quite a bit and argue with myself in the shower and other places."

During an emergency conference call March 10, Vice Chair Donald Kohn noted that banks in developing countries, long dependent on credit from rich countries, were reluctant to lend to the United States and Europe. "I think I will pause there for the irony to sink in for a second."

Bolstering Yellen's Reputation

The 2008 transcripts help confirm Yellen's reputation as a savvy economic forecaster.

At the Jan. 28-29 meeting, Yellen warned that the economy was facing perilous times because of the bursting of the housing bubble and the shockwaves that had coursed through the banking industry. "The severe and prolonged housing downturn and financial shock have put the economy at, if not beyond, the brink of recession," Yellen said.

She said she had downgraded her economic outlook "substantially" since the Fed's meeting the previous month. The weakening in the job market was "quite typical of patterns seen when the economy is tipping into recession," she said.

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Yellen's dim outlook contrasted with some rosier assessments from other Fed officials. And the Fed staff delivered an economic report that did not forecast a recession, noting an absence of excess inventories outside of housing.

The National Bureau of Economic Research, the group of economists that determine when recessions began, would later declare that the recession had already begun by the time of the January Fed meeting. They determined that the Great Recession had begun in December 2007 and ended in June 2009.

In December 2007, Yellen had also expressed concerns about growing dangers and failed to persuade her Fed colleagues to back a half-point cut in interest rates. The Fed's policy committee instead approved a smaller quarter-point reduction in interest rates.

The December 2007 transcripts show Yellen saying, "Any more bad news could put us over the edge, and the possibility of getting bad news — in particular, a significant credit crunch — seems far from remote."

As 2008 unfolded, Yellen's concerns about a credit crunch proved correct.

Using Different Language In Public

At the March 18 meeting, Mishkin, who resigned later that year to return to teaching at Columbia University, said he felt the country was in a serious financial crisis, though he said he didn't use the word "crisis" in public:

"We are in a financial crisis, and it is worse than we have experienced in any other episode of financial "disruption," which is the word I use. I will not use 'financial crisis' in public. 'Financial disruption' is still a good phrase to use in public, but I really do think that this is a financial crisis. It is surely going to be called that in the next edition of my textbook."

Earlier, Mishkin had missed a January emergency call because he was "on the slopes."

"I think in Idaho somewhere," Bernanke said.

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